Amen.
And Amen to the last post, too.
So, need a campaign manager?

Not much chance of my rage going away.

Q: What rhymes with hypocrisy?
A: Theocracy.

So go and see: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/11/3/92359/8844

Thanks for helping me get through a couple of the roughest days in recent memory.

Right on! I think if there is one good thing to come from this elec...er, I mean hijacking, it's that the right-wing dominance in DC might just crystalize oppostional forces in a way that wouldn't happen with the usual checks and balances in place. I would also hope that the media might actually become more bulldoggish in investigating administration wrong-doings. Or at the very least, voices other than the corporate media might start to come into play in a stronger way. Bloggers perhaps?

amen brother mike. i'm gonna get my activism on big time.

Good for you Mike. I personally have never been happier to not be living in the US. It's the Supreme Court that's most upsetting. The amount of damage they (the Bush Administration) can do is horrendous. It's back to the robber-barren times for businesses too. No more regulation, freedom to plunder. So, so scary.

Okay now a word from the other side of the fence. This election was not "hijacked." Let's hear more false statments from the corprate media. Like CBS and Danny boys atempt to smear a man. Look Bush is not perfect, and either was Kerry, but it says a lot that the middle section of this country voted mostly for Bush. It sounds like most of you live on either coast, but lest I remind you that thier is a middle section to this country. I live in Michigan where as it was stated into the ground Tuesday we had a proposal 2 that said that the consitution in our state should state that marriage is one man and one woman. Now first I like the fact they had to put a number of how many people were invovled in the marriage, and how simple the statment was. Now for the shocker, I did not vote for this. I think if someone wants to be married let them. It is the right of the people, not goverment to tell us how what is a marriage. No shock I voted for Bush. I do not like his stance on this issue, but that is what is great about this country I can have the choice to do this. I am open to different viewpoints. Bush won the popular vote. He is the first man to do this since Carter. Where was the youth vote? 17% same as the 2000 election. If the democrats want to win go back to the standards not the new age it takes a village stuff. Listen to what the people want in the heart of this country not just battleground states. I have always stood behind the electoral collage, but maybe it is time it should go. What do you think. Mike I love you like family lets meet some day soon and have a beer and say f**k it all.

Yes, Brad. I'm a proud member of what you would call the "liberal elite." I get all of my information from Dan Rather.

Oh, wait. No I don't. I get my information from the real world, something that people in Jesusland don't seem to understand. Here's a nice lisf of facts for you to start with.

I'm going head your argument off at the pass, too. You'll say that you don't give that article any creedance because it comes from The Nation. If you choose to ignore the mainstream media sources that they link to I can only shake my head and wonder where America's brain cells have gone.

The youth vote increased 64% in swing states. I have no idea what you mean when you say that Bush is the first person to win the popular vote since Carter. Maybe you meant this is the first time that Bush has won the popular vote....

Alright then. I live in Jesusland (arkansas, to be exact). I even believe in Jesus. But not like THEY do. I was in the 10% or whatever of folks who voted against the gay marriage ban here this week.

I'm dumbfounded at this "mandate" and I can only guess that America gets what we deserve this time. Shame on the democratic party for not doing better. Kerry was just too easily demonized in the eyes of the dumb masses. (i'm not talking about you here, Brad. I'm thinking of those who actually believe there's some sort of moral center driving W's "leadership"

I thought we left this whole issue of moral and values behind 12 years ago.

Ugh.

What a bunch of sore lossers!!!!
The country voted and Kerry lost.
If you don't like it, work harder next time.
That is after all what makes this country great!

BUsh was the first president to be elected with both vites the electoral(duh), but also the the popular vote. this has not been done since Carter was elected predsident. Yeah Mike it may increased in the swing states, but to what avail across the nation it still stayed 17%. P-Diddy came out on MTV and said to the youth "Vote or Die." They across the nation as a whole choose die. That figure is put out in types of media not just that fat head Limbaugh, or Hannity. There that is my rebuttal to that statment. I will read the things you put out there because I respect you. Hell Christy and I even watched Moore's movie, not documentry, but movie. Maybe that is the real reason he wants the best picture not the documentry catagory at the Ocsars, because he made a good piece of fiction.

The electoral collage.

You are gay, aren't you?

(kidding)

For the gloatmeisters, hear this:

We are already mobilizing to win back Congress in '06. Enjoy your DC visit - for your stay will be brief.

It's too bad, isn't it, that the 'mandate' is written in the blood of our troops and a hundred thousand innocent Iraqis. Bush will have to pray for forgiveness, from his Jesus.

But remember, we can forgive you! We heart tourists from Jesusland. Come by and say howdy! Look at our crazy gay couples, frolicking in the streets. Eat, drink, spend; forget your puritanical ways, back on the plains! It's Baghdad By The Bay, not Baghdad by the river. It's safe for you to walk around; so long as you don't look at the homeless. They're yucky.

I do not which is worst being a " gloatmeister" or a bitter person who would like to say hateful things. Just a suggestion, but maybe channel your hate into something more positive. I was just looking over Mike's original comments, and I also do not disagree with him on daddy's girl in Alaska. In fact the Dem had t shirts that asked "Who's your Daddy?" That was a nice touch. Classy

I believe that the outcome of this election has a big impact on everyone. Whether people voted for Bush OR Kerry, the bottom line is that there wasn't a candidate that really, truly inspired people...the Democrats should be kicking themselves for their choice in a candidate...the right candidate would have made all the difference. For a lot of people, it came down to a choice of the "lesser of two evils" in making their decision. I myself REFUSE to let that be the case next time. I don't know what that looks like right now, but I am getting involved.

I want a candidate who IS the people, I am tired of people with unlimited wealth and power running this country. I have always been a person for the underdog...it seems to me, with the power of the internet and the power of a disappointed nation of voters, it is time for US to take charge of our country in a new way...I want someone who can relate to the trials and troubles of the average joe.

It is my quest over the next 4 years to seek out those people to support not only in my local government, but on a national level as well. I am sure I am not alone in my thinking, just feeling small as to how I can make a difference besides just making my voice known on election day. It is TOO late then.

So everyone, take a stand for your beliefs, find and support those people that you find yourself in alignment with, push those you know to do the same.

We need to push for campaign reform and help our "average Joe's" (or Betty's) find their way and their voice in the sea of all the political bullshit that we are all so tired of! It is all of our responsibilities to take a stand and let eachother know that we are not going to put up with this any longer and form a united front.

Mike Wolf for President! haha

That's the ticket, Holly! A (unnecessary) reminder - we have an election only 2 years from now. Get active and help us win back Congress.

And Brad, I said I heart & forgive you. How is that hurtful? You know, the tradition is for the victors to extend the olive branch to the vanquished. Do get with the President's program, of reaching out to the Kerry camp. He's counting on you. And worry not - I'm not bitter. I'm not even disappointed anymore. Ever a coastal resident, I am used to seeing our progressive politics and cultural mores eventually assimilated into the fabric of the heartland. You always catch up. And in the interim, I'm serious, come on out. We need your tourist money! Arnold has expensive needs.

Wow, all that vitrol.

Can't we all just get along?

Oh, and Jesus loves me.

But, I only like him as a friend.

Man Dean you are so cool (not kidding). I love that comment.

The first comment, not that there was anything wrong with the second one. Just love a bit of honest snarkiness.

Dean Peace brother. I love spirited debate. My last comment was more for evry one. If you voted for Bush congrats. If you voted for Kerry better luck next time. And as for Holly if I find you running in area I can vote for you I would. I support your comments. In fact I was telling my wife what happened to the party for the people. We fought and argued for basiclaly the same thing. So holly let me know how one man in MI can help change the world. I am involved, but lets make this thing grow.

I still don't get the "first pres to win the popular vote since Carter" comment. Please to explain.

Brad, thanks, too bad I don't still live in Michigan, but like Mike, I have many skeletons in my closet-I inhaled OFTEN....

I think the biggest way to make a difference is to let each and every person know that they make a difference.

Maybe between the few of us here and our research, we can find some candidates to get behind, start talking about ant get the word out to other people. THAT is the beauty of the power of the people(with a little help from the internet).

It is kind of like the movie "Pay it Forward", or gossip,for that matter. I tell you, and you tell 2 people, and SO ON. It is like our own little Amway, getting people to start talking and making their voices heard. People writing the powers that be an letting them know. Volunteering for those candidates you find appealing to spread the word.

It is right inside of you...YOU have the power to change the world. Isn't that what we learned in "Pay it Forward"? Unfortunately, OUR very own gov't. and politics has pushed so many people to the point of no return where they either leave(Mark & Marjorie), WANT to leave(Mike Wolf), or are so apathetic that they DON'T EVEN VOTE(see story below).

I ran into a dude at Office Depot on Tuesday. 20 something black man, the girl at the register asks him if he has voted and he says "No, it doesn't matter, who cares?" How sad is that?

Okay, enough for the moment, I must get shopping for some clients...

Love you all!