He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster... when you gaze long into the abyss, the abyss also gazes into you.
-Friedrich Nietzsche
You realize that that is kind of misogynistic, Mike? At least by my interpretation, which is, admittedly, quite poor with respect to Nietzsche. But he writes this in the middle of a bunch of apothegms on women and intimacy. It could be an interlude, though.
But I think it funny that you would quote Nietzsche, him being who he is, and you being who you are. "One renounces the great life when one renounces war." I'm pretty sure he meant this (and most of his denouncements of peace) in an internal sense, the way many Muslims interpret the jihad and Christians interpret the "bearing not peace, but a sword," but the Nazis were so avid about him, I think they forever changed how we read him.
"life is a result of war, society itself a means to war."
Feh!
Posted by: Allan on March 22, 2003 03:03 AMOnly care to defend myself against the accusation of misogyny. Don't care to debate Nietzsche because, you're absolutely right, this is pretty much a illicit grab from his thought process on my part. Using Nietzsche in pacifist sense is really pretty absurd of me.
At any rate, it's from an interlude. Beyond Good and Evil, Part IV, 146. As such, I don't think it's misogynistic.
Posted by: mrw on March 22, 2003 06:54 PMSorry, Mike, should have been more careful in my writing; I did not mean to charge you with misogyny, only pointing out that the quote was, or rather, could be construed as a misogynistic one, placed where it is in the sequence of things. As I wrote earlier, my powers of hermeneusis are completely lacking in the Nietzsche department.
Hm. Neither Safari nor Chimera/Camino is rendering your archive or post pages properly.
Posted by: Allan on March 25, 2003 12:40 AMNeither is ie. The post, plus comment, have become curiously lengthened, because the line length resembles that of a minimalist poem. Only the comment box retains its original girth. It is like reading one of the shaped "Alice" poems...
Posted by: Felicity on March 25, 2003 11:08 PM